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The $1 Billion Question: Did AT&T Poison People with Underwater Lead Cables?


Decades ago, AT&T buried thousand of miles of lead-lined cables across the U.S., and a Wall Street Journal investigation recently found thousands of those cables still under the soil and water tables of very populated areas.

The Journal’s investigation found that 80% of sediment samples taken next to underwater cables showed elevated levels of lead, with the lead levels highest directly under or next to the cables and dropping off within a few feet — a sign that the lead was coming from the cables.

The investigation also found examples of aerial cables, coated in lead, with lead flaking off into the sediment below.

However, assigning blame is difficult.

The company named AT&T today is a different company that the company named AT&T which laid the cables decades ago. Between then and now, the original AT&T was broken up into 8 different companies as part of an anti-monopoly lawsuit. Some of those companies later merged and rebranded into Verizon. Others ended up merging with internet companies, or dying. And one eventually bought the old AT&T trademark and rebranded as AT&T.

As companies split, merged, split again, and merged again over the decades, many cables were abandoned, and records were lost.

Several telecom companies have denied ownership of problematic cables, making it difficult for investigators or potential class action plaintiffs to track down who exactly they should be going after.

On top of that, it’s an open question of whether or not the lead contamination from the cables was actually high enough to significantly affect anyone.

Isotopic analysis showed with high confidence that the lead in at least some of the contaminated areas was coming from the cables, but we don’t yet have any medical or other data to show a causal link to actual health problems, which means telecom companies likely won’t be forced to pay anything for at least a decade, if ever.

I hired my first employee, but my client wants me personally. What do I do?


Fred, 58 years old, runs a pest control company. A few months ago, he hired his first employee, Mat. Mat had no previous pest control experience, so Fred spent two months training him before letting him service clients on his own.

“I’ve had many compliments from clients about [Mat]… Since I hired him, I’ve been able to answer calls as they come in, go do estimates in person and grow the business. I wasn’t able to do that before. Also, I’m about to make my second hire, someone with lots of experience…[But then I received the messages in the screenshot above]… I understand that I probably did do a better job, but that’s a very high standard. Did [Mat] do a bad job, or just not as good as me? I don’t want to lose the client, but I also don’t want them dictating how I run my business. It’s a $95 bi-monthly residential [job, which is underpriced] because they’ve been a client for a couple of years, big property. Is it just growing pains? Should I just let them go?”

Fred

Here’s what advice other pest control business owners had for Fred:

1. Don’t let clients choose which employee services them

“At some point you’ll have to make you doing it not an option. Some customers may not go with it, but your customer base will change as the business does.”

Braiden

“I’ve encountered this. Sometimes you have to trim the edges of the plant in order for it to grow properly. If they absolutely won’t do your service unless you’re on the property, you may consider replacing their account.”

Brandon

“This happens to me a lot since last year I stopped doing regular visits. People will ask for me. My first question is “Did (employee name) do something wrong”? The answer is always no, the employee didn’t do anything wrong. Then I explain to the customer that the coolest part of being a business owner is that you’re able to hire hard-working people and create a team to solve complex problems. I then tell the customer that I am part of that team still, but I have taken on a new role. 9/10 customers will stay on board after that explanation. The ones that stop service you didn’t want anyway.

The important thing to remember is this never ends. We only have two full-time technicians. I we have a few customers that only want my most experience technician. Customers will complain that they prefer employee number one or employee number two. I give them the same response. We’re all part of the same team and we all can solve complex problems.”

Jeff

“Yep, growing pains, every person that grows gets this and when you hire your next guy some of your customers will ask that only your first hire do there service.
Congratulation on the growth!! There are some great suggestions already made. Best of luck as for move forward.”

Caleb

2. Use a phone survey to check if your tech has picked up a bad habit

Mate, this happens to every pest business as they grow…

There are a couple potential things that may have happened, and how you deal with this will vary accordingly.

Every single employee I have ever hired, no matter how much training I have personally given them; when they are on their own, their personality, their mannerisms, their personal comfortability around certain tasks come into play and they develop their own habits and ways of doing things… And I do mean every employee.

All it takes is one customer asking him to do something that you do not do on your regular service and your employee wanting to impress thinks – I can do that – so they do it and the customer is over the moon – and your employee gets a dopamine rush with their appreciation and so when they go to the next job… guess what… they do it there too and before you even know it’s happening they are doing something that you never wanted or taught them to do. That’s all it takes.

Don’t just assume your customer can pinpoint exactly what they didn’t like about the service. If they feel more comfortable with you – there is a reason and you just have to work it out. Don’t ever assume your employee hasn’t picked up a bad habit.

Maybe it was a once off issue – Maybe your employee was stressed or had a fight with his girlfriend or was running late or maybe he nearly got in an accident on the way to the job and when the customer answered the door – he wasn’t smiling. Maybe he didn’t engage or ask the questions this one time, and that is what made them feel less comfortable with him compared to you.

Maybe the employee got a phone call and someone doing work for your customer whilst on their phone is a pet peeve of theirs.

Or maybe they feel entitled and believe they deserve you as the business owner only… that’s a whole other issue.

Here is what I would do…

Phone the client and say this …

“Hi _____. How are you today?

I would like to ask for your permission to help me, would you be willing to help me?

Great, I am just doing a follow up and would like to run through a few things with you…

When ____ arrived did he park the vehicle in a convenient location that was of no inconvenience for you?

When he arrived did he introduce himself with a smile?

Did he explain what he was there to do and confirm with you about your specific issues and needs?

Did he then do the job in a professional manner?

Did he leave the site as he found it, closing any gate that was closed upon arrival, ensure that the tap was turned off?

Did he advise you that he was done with the job?

Did he remain professional at all times?

Did he drive away in a courteous manner?

(Word all questions in the positive)

If they answered yes to all questions – pause for several seconds – and come back with… I’m confused, why were you unsatisfied with my new manager? (Lift up your employee to a high status)

You might just get the real answer.

If they answered “no” to any of your questions – say this:

“Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. You have helped me to know exactly what to work on in our training and I appreciate that so very much and I promise you that next time he will certainly not do that again.

Can I ask one last favour – would you please contact me next time and let me know how he did? You are such a valuable customer and your sacrifice of time and insight is helping our company to grow and provide the very best of service, and I really appreciate that. Now with inflation our prices are going up, but because you are now one of my advisory clients that’s helping to perfect our business I’m going to keep you at the same discounted rate”

Another tip – always refer to your staff as the manager… never a “new employee” or “trainee”…

They are a manager of their own jobs after all.

This builds credibility as well.

On a final note / it is so awesome when you do an audit ride along with a staff member after awhile and just observe and a customer assumes that you are the trainee – best internal giggle ever!

Danny

3. If one client voices dissatisfaction, other clients may be silently dissatisfied

They’re telling you the issue. “You did a better job”. Call them and ask for specifics on where your tech fell short in their eyes. Thank them for the feedback as your goal is to train your team to replace you (or better).

If one customer is having a subpar experience, others might be as well. Now.. if they are requesting you because you’re their favorite. They’ll need to get over that. Jeff Bezos doesn’t deliver my Amazon packages and Bill Gates doesn’t install my Windows updates.

John

So one client out of how many asked for you personally? Do you make follow up calls or site checks to verify his work? I believe in the trust but verify method. I would call or meet with the client and ask how your technician isn’t doing the same level service in their eyes.

Tom

4. Help forge a new trusted relationship between the client and the new tech

“My husband explains to them that he hand picks and hand trains each one of our employees and trusts their service. And that he is not available for standard services on a regular basis, but would be happy to come out as he can. We’ve lost a couple people over the years but nothing I’m too worried about.”

Jerika

Sometimes it takes a “formal handoff” where you go with your new hire to the concerned client’s house and walk them through how well he is doing the job. It builds confidence. I’ve had to do this with my home inspection company when I got out of the field. One or two supervisory ride alongs (without any tools) was sufficient for the clients to be comfortable with the new hire. Be sure to elaborate any experience, and let the new hire talk! He needs to be able to communicate and build confidence that he knows what he’s doing, or he won’t be successful.

Philippe

Go and do the service with your tech, even if just a couple times, to help the customer feel more comfortable moving forward.

Ryan

In my opinion this is most likely a relational issue.

One way I’ve had success overcoming this is to send out new tech letters or emails introducing the new person. This speeds up the process and starts the connection process.

Also, going with the tech a few times often helps (sounds like you probably did that)… the tech letter was a game-changer for us…

In many cases, the customer isn’t buying pest control, they are buying relationship that does a pest control service. If you understand this, then all you have to do is provide a platform for the relational transfer and the process becomes much simpler.

Alger

5. Have your customers sign longer term service contracts in advance of hiring new techs

If you’re not going to run the route anymore, tell them that. Ask them what he needs to do better to keep them happy and send him back out.

I’d also recommend (if you haven’t already) to get your customers to sign a contract or service agreement with an early cancellation penalty next time you plan on switching/adding techs. That way they are locked in regardless who comes.

I told my customers that I no longer have a truck as I’m transitioning from technician to manager. I lost maybe 5 customers total.

Eddie

What Percentage of Assets do Companies Hold as Cash?


I sampled a variety of companies to get an idea of how much cash typical businesses hold on their balance sheets. The data is in the table below.

CompanyIndustryCash & Cash Equivalents
as % of FY2022 Assets
AppleTech17.5%
Coca ColaConsumer Goods10.3%
IBMTech4.4%
CrocsConsumer Goods4.3%
AlphabetTech6.0%
Acorda TherapeuticsBiotech9.5%
Optical Cable CorporationManufacturing0.5%
MIND TechnologyTech12.2%
IntrusionTech32.5%
BlackLineTech10.3%
Five BelowRetail10.0%
Shake ShackRestaurant15.4%
Kronos WorldwideChemical Production32.3%
Carlisle CompaniesManufacturing Conglomerate5.5%
Installed Building ProductsInstallation Contractor12.9%

This is important data to know if you want to create an opportunity zone business (because opportunity zone businesses need to comply with the 5% rule).

56 Profitable Bookkeeping Niches


This article is a list of profitable niches for bookkeepers and virtual CFO service businesses.

  1. HVAC companies
  2. Pest & mosquito control companies
  3. Funeral homes
  4. Crematoriums
  5. Septic tank installation & servicing companies
  6. Asphalt paving companies
  7. Dentists’ offices
  8. Doctors’ offices
  9. Independent insurance agencies (life insurance, property insurance, auto insurance)
  10. Marketing agencies
  11. Website development agencies
  12. Marinas
  13. Yacht brokerages
  14. Yacht & ship management companies
  15. IT managed service providers (MSPs)
  16. Junk removal companies
  17. Heavy equipment rental companies
  18. Youtubers with over 20,000 subscribers
  19. Farms
  20. Dog groomers
  21. Dog hotels
  22. Doggy daycares
  23. Residential property managers
  24. Real estate GPs & syndicators
  25. Real estate developers
  26. Residential cleaning companies
  27. Commercial janitorial companies
  28. Tour operator companies
  29. Window cleaning companies
  30. Small lumber stores
  31. Convenience stores
  32. Gas stations
  33. Concrete contractors
  34. Independent consultants
  35. Optometrists
  36. Bars
  37. Restaurants (the larger the better)
  38. E-commerce
  39. Law firms
  40. General contractors
  41. Roofing contractors
  42. Plumbers
  43. Electricians
  44. Veterinarians
  45. Gyms
  46. Rock climbing gyms
  47. Nonprofits
  48. Tent & party equipment rental companies
  49. Security service companies
  50. Investment advisors
  51. SaaS (software) companies
  52. Business brokerages
  53. Trust management companies
  54. Securities broker-dealers
  55. Foundries
  56. Metal working shops

If you want to attract higher value clients, you’ll want to go after a niche where businesses are commonly missing out on important opportunities (or are commonly incurring significant extra costs) due to bad bookkeeping. You can then provide the solution. Look for businesses that are operationally complex and/or have high gross margins (ideally both). Here are some examples:

1. Doctors’ offices (Healthcare)

Medical billing and reimbursement is complex. Billing and bookkeeping are complex interconnected requirements for doctors. Insurance claims, insurance reimbursements, different rates for insurance and cash patients, and healthcare billing regulations and debt collection all come into play.

Additionally, doctors earn a lot per hour so it’s not worth it for them to spend their time doing the books.

2. General contractors (Construction)

General contractors require subcontractor management, contract management, cash flow management (since construction projects often have long, staged payment cycles with financing from multiple sources and some payments depending on performance), and project cost estimating.

3. Foundation, structure, and building exterior contractors (Construction)

These types of contractors typically have over 2 month lags between when they bill for services and when they actually receive the money they are owed (the average age of accounts receivables for these companies is 67.5 days). That means cash flow, revenue recognition, and appropriate AR management are all more important here than for an “average” business.

4. Nonprofits

Nonprofits have a lot to lose (their tax exempt status) if they don’t keep good books. They also must track restricted funds, donations, and grants, and sometimes must produce financial statements for donors and regulators. They have to carefully avoid or track unrelated business income (UBI), and pay unrelated business income tax on any UBI they generate.

5. Car rental companies

A company that is renting at least 10 cars has a lot of depreciation as well as ongoing repair and maintenance costs. They also have operational and marketing costs. And they have a lot of cash flow. That is a good recipe to be a profitable bookkeeping client.

6. Heavy equipment rental companies

Like car rental companies, heavy equipment (e.g. cranes, bulldozers, etc) rental companies are operationally complex with a lot of ongoing depreciation, repairs, and maintenance.

What are the different types of bookkeeping?

Bookkeeping and accounting mean different things to different businesses. In general, there are several types of accounting tasks that may or may not be included in your bookkeeping services:

  • Categorizing transactions (from bank accounts and credit card accounts) using the labels from a chart of accounts. This is traditionally what “bookkeeping” meant.
  • Handling accounts receivable.
    • Zippia lists the median salary for AR clerks at $36,425/year ($17.52/hour). Zippia estimates the “typical range” at $29-45k / year.
    • Salary.com lists the average AR position (not just clerk) salary at $76,347/year.
    • Indeed lists the average base pay for AR clerks at $20.55 / hour.
  • Handling accounts payable.
    • Zippia lists the median salary for AP clerks at $38,333/year ($18.43/hour). Zippia estimates the “typical range” at $30-48k / year.
    • Salary.com lists the average AP position (not just clerk) salary at $77,726/year.
    • Indeed lists the average base pay for AP clerks at $20.37 / hour.
  • Managing payroll.
  • Paying & filing sales taxes.
  • Filing local, state, and federal income taxes.
  • Providing monthly or quarterly reports (P&L statement, cash flow statement, balance sheet, and possibly industry or business-specific KPI tracking)

Accounts Receivable

An accounts receivable (AR) clerk or specialist is responsible for making sure that customers pay their bills to the company, and that those transactions are recorded. Tasks included in these jobs are:

  • Generating invoices and sending them to clients/customers.
  • Following up with any clients/customers with unpaid invoices.
  • Maintaining and updating accounts receivable records to ensure aging (how long each client’s payment has been due), credits, and collections are applied and uncollectible amounts are accounted for.
  • Reconciling bank (and cash) accounts with AR accounts.
  • Preparing financial reports with AR KPIs so that the company’s management can gain insight into how collection efforts are going.
  • (For contractors): Preparing, issuing, and removing liens against the properties of customers who refuse to pay.
  • Hiring collection agencies or selling uncollected AR accounts when they go unpaid for a long time.

Accounts Payable

An accounts payable (AP) clerk or specialist is responsible for making sure that all valid bills are paid and that no invalid (or inaccurate) bills are paid. The various tasks often included under the umbrella of AP work include:

  • Verifying that invoices from vendors and suppliers are legitimate and accurate.
    • Is the invoice missing the invoice number? If so, you may need to ask the vendor/supplier to add the number.
    • If your business uses purchase orders, then you’ll want to match an invoice to a purchase order to verify that it’s legitimate and accurate (i.e. for the same dollar amount) before paying it.
    • Your business may have some other approval process that you need to go through before paying an invoice.
  • Communicating with vendors and suppliers to correct any inaccurate invoices.
  • Saving invoices (or a scanned copy of invoices in the case of paper invoices delivered by conventional mail) to an accounting system or computer storage system.
  • Coding invoices into your business’s accounting system (i.e. select the general ledger account, department, entity, location, etc).
  • Making payments on verified or approved invoices. This may be by sending a wire from your business’s bank website OR it may be via Bill.com or Tipalti or Coupa or from within your business’s ERP system such as NetSuite.
  • Near each month end, you’ll need to reconcile accounts
    • Cash account reconciliation: ending balance in books and records = ending balance from bank statement. This ensures that all cash disbursements during the month have been accounted for in the books and records.
    • Reconcile AP balance on the balance sheet to the AP balance on the Aging Schedule (a table of all a company’s accounts payables, ordered by their due dates)

An accounts payable clerk may be able to process anywhere from 30-120 invoices per day (excluding end of month days spent on reconciliation) depending on the skill of the clerk, the complexity and uniformity of the invoices, the percentage of invoices with errors, the business’s approval process for paying invoices, and the amount of automation that the company uses in the AP process. 32-45 per day is most typical. 120 invoices per day is absurdly high and is only possible for a company with highly uniform invoices that all come in through a standardized & heavily automated software system.

As a rule of thumb, if you run an outsourced AP service, you should charge at least enough for you to hire 1 full-time employee (whether that is a domestic or overseas employee) for each 500 invoices to be processed each month.

How much should I charge for bookkeeping services?

A quick search around various job boards shows that part-time bookkeepers in South Florida are being hired for $20-40 per hour. Full-time bookkeeper jobs often include more tasks such as payroll, accounts receivable, accounts payable, and sometimes additional tasks as well. These jobs typically carry salaries in the range of $40-50k per year (but can be up to $100k for some specialist roles at some companies).

Below is a table which shows the rates of various outsourced bookkeeping services.

CompanyDescriptionPrice
BackOffice.co– Free Quickbooks or Xero software included
– Quickbooks Certified ProAdvisor Elite team (with overseas support most likely)
– Monthly or weekly bookkeeping
– Cash and accrual accounting
– Login access for your CPA
– Categorize all transactions (import bank statements; reconcile bank & credit card)
– Monthly income / P&L statement
– Monthly balance sheet
* Easily manage your bill pay and payroll (how?)
Starts at $89/mo
Pilot.com– Designed for startups
– accrual basis accounting
– Monthly P&L, balance sheet, and cash flow statements
– Monthly burn rate calculations
– Dedicated finance expert to talk to when needed
Starting at $499/mo (billed annually) for pre-revenue companies with up to $15k in monthly expenses
Bench.coEssential:
– Monthly books
– Monthly P&L and balance sheet
– 1099 reporting
– Year end financial report for your tax team
– 30% discount on Gusto payroll
– 30% discount on Stripe payments

Premium:
– Everything in Essential plan
– Annual state and federal income tax filings
– Unlimited 1-1 income tax advisory services

*Add $100/mo if you want segment-level bookkeeping
Essential: $299/mo (or $249/mo billed annually)

Premium: $499/mo (or $399/mo billed annually)
RemoteBooksOnline.com– Monthly bookkeeping
– Certified QuickBooks ProAdvisors and Xero-Certified Advisors
– Accounting software included
– Assigned a dedicated bookkeeper (probably overseas) and meet monthly with a lead accountant with a 4-year accounting degree
Starts at $95/mo (for one checking account)
Rent-A-Bookkeeper– Basic monthly bookkeeping
– Monthly P&L and balance sheet
Most clients spend $250-500/mo
FixeRestaurant bookkeeping

Core Service:
– Weekly vendor payments (accounts payable)
– Sales tax filings
– Bookkeeping & reconciliations for up to 2 bank accounts, 2 credit cards, and one cloud-based POS system
– Payroll system integration
– Monthly P&L statement and balance sheet
– Monthly inventory adjustment
– 1 hour phone support each month
– Unlimited email support

Pro Service:
– Everything in Core, plus
– Weekly “Flash Reports” (what are those?)
– Customized period reporting
– 2 hour phone support
– Payroll processing (but you still pay for the payroll system’s fees)
– A/R (up to 20 invoices/mo)

Premium:
– Everything in pro, plus:
– 4 hours phone support each month
– Up to 3 connected bank accounts and 3 connected credit card accounts
– A/R (up to 50 invoices/mo)
– Weekly inventory adjustment
– Customized reporting
Core: $550/mo/location

Pro: $750/mo/location

Premium: $1,000+/mo/location

What is FedNow? And How Does it Work?


Americans spend roughly $10 billion on payday loan fees each year because it takes banks 2-5 business days to actually deposit paycheck money into your account after you earn it. That’s changing in less than 3 weeks though because the Federal Reserve is launching their new 24/7/365 payment service, FedNow, before the end of the month.

FedNow has been called a blockchain, a government version of CashApp, and a central bank digital currency (CBDC). In reality, it’s none of those things.

What FedNow actually is is an instant payment network for banks to send money to other banks, 24/7, even on weekends and Christmas. Unlike a public blockchain like Bitcoin, FedNow is neither decentralized nor available to the general public. Only banks and credit unions which already have master accounts at the Fed can directly use the FedNow network.

Despite the deceptive photoshopped images published by many media outlets (see the example below), there is no government app that consumers can use to send payments over the FedNow network. Instead, each bank that wants to make FedNow available to their customers has to modify their own app or website to provide an interface for their customers to the FedNow network. That means FedNow instant payments will only be available to customers at certain banks in the beginning, but more banks will gradually join the network over time as part of FedNow’s phased roll-out strategy.

(Example of a photoshopped image by Forbes which has mislead many members of the public to believe that there will be a consumer-facing FedNow app.)

Faster payments help people, especially poor people, but some consumer advocates have raised concerns about how FedNow handles these payments. For starters, FedNow transactions are routed through the Fed which means the government can see the details of every payment that anyone sends on FedNow, not just payment amounts over $600 as will be the case for Venmo starting next year.

Additionally, some people are concerned that since FedNow is operated by the Fed, the Fed could abuse its power over the network to block transactions on political grounds. For example, the Fed could in theory refuse to process FedNow payments to certain political protesters or to firearm stores.

Currently, Fed officials claim the Fed will not censor any transactions, but Fed governor Lael Brainard also said that after phase 1 of the network’s roll-out, the Fed may start censoring transactions suspected of being fraudulent.

Several years ago, Facebook admitted to incorrectly censoring Trump supporters who were misflagged as Russian bots, so it’s not unreasonable to worry that automated Fed censoring of financial transactions may end up harming certain political groups. It’s also not unreasonable to assume that the Fed may provide some of this information to the IRS to help them target Americans suspected of under reporting their income. FedNow transactions even include metadata related to tax.

Instant payments in general also increase the risk of bank runs like we saw at Silicon Valley Bank earlier this year, and the risk of payment scams like we already have on CashApp and Zelle.

FedNow also poses an existential risk to some businesses, including payday loan companies and crypto companies.

One of the primary selling points of cryptocurrencies is that they enable nearly instantaneous 24/7/365 payments. If you can now accomplish the same thing directly from a U.S. bank account you already have, then what’s the benefit of paying via cryptocurrency? In fact, many cryptocurrencies are slower than FedNow.

FedNow transactions take a maximum of 20 seconds to complete, with a typical transaction only taking 2-5 seconds. In contrast, a Dogecoin transaction takes 2-5 minutes to finalize, and a Bitcoin transaction takes about an hour to finalize.

However, three crypto companies are embracing the FedNow roll-out as an opportunity to be a service provider to banks in a brand new market:

  1. Nuvei,
  2. Fluency Technologies, and
  3. TassatPay

If the name “Nuvei” sounds somewhat familiar, it’s probably because Ryan Reynolds recently invested in and became a spokesperson for the company.

Nuvei is actually not a crypto-native company though. It’s just a regular payments company that happens to provide a way for businesses to pay in cash and pay out in crypto, or vice versa, and it allows traditional payments to also occur via FedNow.

Fluency and Tassat on the other hand both offer private blockchain platforms for banks to build upon.

Sadly, but not surprisingly, there are no Ethereum or other public blockchain based companies that are currently connecting to FedNow. However, one thing that does bring FedNow and many crypto companies together is a tendency to create expensive animated web pages for questionable projects:

A quick comparison of existing payment methods in the U.S.

Payment MethodTransaction LimitsTypical Transaction Cost to UserTypical TimeAvailability
Wire TransferNone (or bank specific)$201 HourMonday to Friday, 9am to 4pm

Available at all banks
ACH$10,000 or less per tx for consumer accounts

$25,000 or less per day for consumer accounts

*Chase offers the highest limits for consumers
Free for consumers

Free or <$1 for businesses
2 Business DaysMonday to Friday
RTP$1 million per txNot directly available to end users

4.5 cents per tx for banks
Seconds24/7/365

Available at ~300 financial institutions
Zelle

*Uses RTP, ACH, batching, and virtual transfers on the back end
$5,000 or less per dayFree3 Minutes10am to 10pm, 7 days a week, excluding certain holidays

*Not available for users of every bank
FedNOW$500,000 per txNot directly available to end users

4.5 cents per tx for banks
<20 seconds24/7/365

What IS FedNow, from an engineering perspective?

FedNow is a new software protocol operated by the Federal Reserve and made available to banks and other financial institutions. The purpose of FedNow is to allow banks to instantly (within 20 seconds) send payments back and forth.

In nerdier terms, FedNow is a messaging protocol where certain messages have the side effect of changing the values of participating master accounts at the Federal Reserve.

Will FedNow replace stablecoins?

FedNow provides instant payments that are as fast or faster than most stablecoins, are backed by FDIC-insured deposits, and are fully regulated and compliant with U.S. laws. In that sense, FedNow replaces one of the biggest use cases for stablecoins. However, FedNow does not directly interact with any blockchain which means it does not provide a solution for fiat-to-crypto trading via decentralized exchanges (DEX’s).

How does FedNow prevent fraud?

Faster payments enable faster fraud. If you send money to a scammer via a blockchain, via Zelle, or via FedNow, you have very little time to discover your mistake before the payment becomes irreversible. To combat the increased risk of fraud created by the introduction of FedNow, FedNow has built-in features to help banks limit their fraud risk. Those features are summarized in the table below.

FeatureDescription
Network-level transaction limitThe maximum amount per transaction that a financial institution can send over the FedNow network.

This limit is set by the Federal Reserve.
Participant-level transaction limitParticipants (i.e. banks and credit unions on the FedNow network) can set a lower transaction limit for credit transfers they initiate based on their organization’s risk policies.

Why would they want to do that? Are sending orgs responsible for fraud?
Participant-defined blacklistsFinancial institutions can specify a list of suspicious accounts that their organization cannot send to or receive from.

What is ISO 20022?

ISO 20022 is a messaging standard for financial institutions developed by the Geneva-based International Organization for Standardization (ISO) in 2004. The ISO 20022 standard is used in various aspects of finance, including:

  • Payments
  • Securities
  • Trade services
  • Cards
  • Foreign exchange

Here is an example of the ISO 20022 message flow for a consumer credit transfer via FedNow:

What features differentiate different payment networks?

  1. Does the network support request-for-payment-initiated payments or only payer-initiated payments?
  2. Does the network support computational rules to compute whether or not a payment should take place based on the state of the network?
    • Example: Each day, check if Bob’s account is below $100. If so, check if Alice’s account is above $500. If so, send $100 from Alice to Bob.
  3. How much does it cost to be a participant of the network?
    • Example: Creating and owning a Bitcoin wallet is free, but there is a monthly membership fee for financial institutions to be a member of FedNOW.
  4. What is the cost per transaction? Is the cost charged for transaction submission, transaction settlement, or both?
  5. Is the network directly available to end users (e.g. Bitcoin) or is it only available to financial institutions (e.g. FedNOW)?
  6. How long does it take for a payment to reach finality?
    • *Finality means that the funds transferred officially become the legal property of the receiving party.
    • **All other things being equal, a faster payment network will reduce false claims fraud perpetrated by payers, whereas it will increase fraudulent charges fraud perpetrated by payees.
    • ***Finality is correlated with the time it takes for money to show up in a payee’s account, but the two events are not actually the same. True finality is mostly a concern for financial institutions concerned with counterparty risk. Most consumers are satisfied when money hits their account and aren’t concerned with whether or not the money is actually theirs or is simply being credited to them a day early by their bank.
  7. Who is responsible for operating the network and finalizing transactions? There are several reasons why this is important:
    • If a single company or small group of companies is responsible for operating the network, they could commit fraud, be hacked, or lose data in a power outage.
    • If a government agency operates the network, then the government may have access to a lot of sensitive information that could be abused for political purposes, such as spying on the financial activities of a political adversary (unless the network has strong cryptographic privacy protections in place).
  8. What types of cryptographic, legal, contractual, and/or company policy based privacy protections are there for users of the network? Who can see (and under what conditions) the information about who sent money to who and what that money was for?
    • *If a payment network has no privacy features preventing a government entity (such as the Fed) from seeing all details about all transactions, then it is easier for the government to abuse any control it may have over transactions (e.g. by blocking payments to a group of political protesters).
  9. What information is (mandatorily or optionally) sent with each payment?
    • Example: If a payment network supports request-for-payment-initiated transactions, then it is valuable to businesses (from a bookkeeping perspective) to have such transactions accompanied by text or other data which identifies what the payment was for. That’s so that the business has proof to show the IRS in the event they are audited. However, if the same payment network also makes all transaction directly to a government entity such as the Fed, then there is a concern that such additional data could be abused to selectively control how people can spend their data (e.g. by disallowing people to spend more than $100 per month on gasoline as a way to accelerate transition towards a green economy).
  10. Can network participants choose whether to only receive payments, only send payments, or both?
  11. Can network participants blacklist certain payment senders, recipients, or transaction types to limit its own risk (e.g. fraud risk, counterparty risk, or sanction risk)?
    • Example 1: My bank won’t accept any payments from Bob because Bob is suspected to be a terrorist, and I don’t want my bank to be fined for helping to fund terrorism.
    • Example 2: My bank won’t send any payments over $100,000 to limit our risk of being defrauded by scam businesses.
    • Example 3: Don’t accept more than 3 request-for-payment-initiated transactions from the same requester in any 2-hour period.
  12. What type(s) of value can be transferred over the payment network?
    • Example 1: Federal Reserve master account dollars
    • Example 2: Bitcoins
    • Example 3: Title to a real estate property

What’s the difference between RTP and FedNow?

RTP is a real-time payment network operated by a consortium of large U.S. banks via The Clearing House organization. RTP was launched in November 2017 and is currently used on the backend of some consumer services like Zelle.

FedNow is also a real-time payment network, but it is operated by the Fed rather than by private banks. FedNow is set to launch before the end of this month (July 2023).

What is FedLine?

FedLine is essentially a computer system that banks use in order to complete bank-to-bank wire transfers and FedNow payments.

What is Fedwire?

Fedwire is the protocol (accessed via FedLine) that banks use to complete domestic wire transfers. As of 2023, the fee charged by the Fed for a bank to transfer funds via Fedwire ranges from 3.6 cents to 92 cents per transaction.

References

[1] About the FedNow Service. The Federal Reserve Board Financial Services.

[2] Explore FedNow. The Federal Reserve Board Financial Services.

[3] FedLine Solutions. The Federal Reserve Board Financial Services.

[4] Federal Reserve Financial Service Fees. FRB Financial Services.

[5] FedNow Fraud Prevention. FRB Financial Services.

[6] RTP (Real Time Payment Network) FAQs. The Clearing House.

[7] FedNow(SM) Service Illustration. Youtube – Federal Reserve Bank Services channel.

[8] Metal Blockchain

[9] FedNow ISO 20022 Message Flows (v1.3, December 2022)

[10] Fluency Technologies – Service Provider Showcase for FedNow

Market Research (Raw): Recreational & Tourist Submarines


NOTE: This is a raw compilation of industry research which has not been substantially edited or curated. It is essentially my notes from researching the recreational submarine and submarine tourism industries. Use it as a reference if you are trying to find specific information or a source for specific information. I don’t recommend reading it from beginning to end.

NOTE 2: I will use the terms submarine and submersible interchangeably.


The recreational submarine industry was born in earnest when George Kittredge formed “Kittredge Sports Subs, Inc.” in 1970 and began selling DIY plans for his Mark 2 personal submarine. Later, the Kittredge began manufacturing full subs, and as of 2023, Kittredge subs are likely still the most numerous recreational subs in existence.

Types of Businesses in the Private Submarine Industry

  • Submarine manufacturers (e.g. Triton Submarines LLC)
  • Submarine component manufacturers (e.g. Stanley Plastics Ltd)
  • Shallow water submarine tour operators (e.g. Atlantis Adventures LLC)
  • Deep water submarine tour operators (e.g. OceanGate)

Recreational Sub Manufacturing

There are 7 companies around the world which currently offer (and have built at least 1) recreational submarine(s). Those companies are described in the table below.

CompanyPopular Sub Models
1Triton Submarines LLC
(Florida)
Triton 3300/3
– Base Price: ~$4 Million
– Max Occupants: 3
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 1,000 meters (3,300 feet)
2U-Boat Worx B.V.
(Netherlands)
Super Yacht Sub 3
– Base Price: $3.15 Million
– Max Occupants: 3
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 300 meters (1,000 feet)

C-Explorer 3
– Base Price: $2.3 Million
– Max Occupants: 3
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 300 meters (1,000 feet)

Nemo 2
– Base Price: $645,000
– Max Occupants: 2
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 100 meters (1,000 feet)
3SEAmagine Hydrospace Corporation
(California)
Aurora-3C
– Base Price: $3.5 Million
– Max Occupants: 3
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 460 meters
4Nuytco Research Ltd.
(Canada)
Curasub
– Base Price: $2.2 Million (This price may be out of date)
– Max Occupants: 5
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 300 meters (1,000 feet)
5Area58 Innovation Inc.
(Canada)
SportSub III SS
– Base Price: $120,000
– Max Occupants: 3
– Type: Wet / Ambient Pressure
– Max Operating Depth: 40 meters (130 feet)
6International Submarine Engineering Ltd.
(Canada)
The company does not advertise standardized designs. However, the company built Microsoft Cofounder Paul Allen’s private sub, Pagoo, which reportedly cost $12 million.

Pagoo can take 8-10 occupants to a depth of 1,000 feet.
7Sub Aviators LLC

*Worked with Nuytco on the Orcasub
Orcasub Model 02KS & 02KT
– Base Price:
– Max Occupants: 2
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 2,000 feet

Orcasub Models 03KS and 03KT
– Base Price:
– Max Occupants: 2
– Type: Dry / Pressurized
– Max Operating Depth: 3,000 feet

What is Triton’s Annual Revenue?

Triton Submarines LLC is a private company that doesn’t publish their financials. I reached out to the company and requested revenue data, but they declined to provide it. However, they did provide data on the total number of subs the company had produced since it was founded in 2008.

Sub ModelNumber Sold (2008-2023)Estimated Average Unit Price
Triton 1000/22$3 Million
Triton 3300/3 (Mk 1 and 2)10$4 Million
Triton 3300/1 MD1$4 Million
Triton 1650/3 LP3$3 Million
Triton 1650/7 C1$5 Million
Triton 3300/62$5.5 Million
Triton 7500/31$5 Million
Triton 660/9 AVA2$3 Million
Triton 660/7 AVA1$3 Million
Triton Deepview 241$7 Million
Triton 36000/21$38 Million
Total25

Some of the above craft have not yet been completed however:

  • The second Triton 3300/6 will be delivered fall 2023.
  • The first Triton 660/9 AVA will be delivered in October 2023 to Scenic (a cruise company).
  • The second Triton 660/9 AVA will be delivered in summer 2024.
  • The Triton 660/7 AVA will be delivered in spring 2025.

Using the data from the table, the company’s total sub sales should be around $134 million. However, only one Triton 36000/2 has ever been built, and it was built around 5 years ago. Since then, it has been listed for resale so there isn’t as much incentive for someone to order a brand new one. Excluding that sub from sales, our revised estimate of the company’s lifetime sub sales is $96 million. Assuming that has mostly occurred during the last 10 years and that sales are gradually increasing, we can estimate that Triton’s 2022 sub sales were likely around $10-20 million.

However, Triton sells more than just subs. It also sells services, including:

  • Expedition support (logistics, science, and film production) for adventure tourism companies that want to offer expeditions that include a submersible.
  • Sub maintenance services.
  • Technical services to install sub support systems onboard a superyacht or expedition boat.

Triton also sells spare parts and consumables.

Additionally, there are several ways which Triton could be making money (although I do not know if they are actually doing these things):

  • Selling insurance (like Tesla).
  • Selling product warranties.
  • Providing financing to customers purchasing subs (interest revenue).
  • Selling subscriptions for regular updates to navigational data and sub software.
  • Selling sub piloting courses.
  • Submarine leasing.
  • Government contracts to produce specialized submersibles for special uses.

Supposing that Triton generates half of its total revenue from sources other than sub sales, then Triton’s total 2022 revenue would be $20-40 million.

Next, let’s use a totally different way to estimate Triton’s revenue and see if we get a similar result.

A simple but generally reliable way to estimate a company’s revenue in the absence of other data is to look at the number of employees the company has, and then multiply that by the typical revenue per employee for the industry that company is in.

Triton Submarines is a leading brand manufacturer of an expensive luxury product. The table below shows the revenue per employee for various somewhat similar companies.

CompanyRevenue Per Employee in 2022
Ford$914,000
Tesla$637,000
GM$939,000
LVMH$426,000
Malibu Boats$403,000
Boeing$444,000
Apple$2.40 Million
Intel$478,000
Leggett & Platt$259,000
IBM$210,000
Patagonia$500,000
Average$692,000
Median$478,000
Lowest$210,000
Highest$2.40 Million

Triton’s website lists 27 employees. However, it doesn’t appear to list any low level employees. Is that because the company doesn’t have any or are they just not listed on the “Team” page? Also, Triton has a subsidiary located in Barcelona, but I don’t see a lot of repeated titles or Spanish names which indicates to me that the website probably does not include employees of the Barcelona location.

Wikipedia estimates that Triton Submarines LLC has 50 employees. That would make sense if the Barcelona location was a bit smaller than the primary Florida location and if low-level and sales employees were not listed on Triton’s website.

Putting together our estimate of employees with our estimates for revenue per employee, the table below shows various revenue estimates for Triton.

Estimated # of EmployeesEstimated Revenue per EmployeeEstimated Revenue
50$210,000$10.5 Million
50$478,000$23.9 Million
50$692,000$34.6 Million
50$2.40 Million$120 Million

Triton is almost certainly not at an Apple level of profitability. Additionally, the companies used as references for revenue per employee are large public companies which are almost always more efficient than small private companies like Triton. So it’s reasonable to assume that Triton’s 2022 revenue was in the range of $10-35 million. That’s pretty similar to our previous estimate based on Triton’s unit sales.

Best Guess: Triton Submarines generated $15-35 million in total revenue in 2022.

What is U-Boat Worx’ Annual Revenue?

U-Boat Worx has 78 employees according to LinkedIn. Using the same industry statistics as we used above to estimate Triton’s revenue based on number of employees, here are my estimates for U-Boat Worx:

Estimated # of EmployeesEstimated Revenue per EmployeeEstimated Revenue
78$210,000$16.38 Million
78$478,000$37.28 Million
78$692,000$53.98 Million
78$2.40 Million$187.2 Million

By the methodology used for Triton, that would give U-Boat Worx an estimated 2022 revenue of $16-54 million.

However, according to a New York Times article from August 2022, U-Boat Worx had only sold 40 subs since it was founded, with 15 more in production. The same article said that U-Boat’s subs typically sold for $2.5-3.5 million each. Using those numbers, we can produce a set of sales estimates:

Total Subs SoldEstimated Average Cost Per SubEstimated Total (18-Year) Sub SalesEstimated 2022 Sub Sales

(Assuming 10 Equal Years of Active Sales)
Estimated 2022 Sub Sales

(Assuming 10 Sales in 2022)
40$2.5 Million$100 Million$10 Million$25 Million
40$3.5 Million$140 Million$14 Million$35 Million
55$2.5 Million$137.5 Million$13.75 Million$25 Million
55$3.5 Million$192.5 Million$19.25 Million$35 Million

That gives us a range of $10-35 million for sub sales. Since U-Boat Worx has been focused on making progressively cheaper subs, I’d guess the true 2022 sales number was on the lower end of that range ($10-20 million). However, the company also sells services (e.g. a 2-week pilot training course for $1 million, as well as maintenance services and sub chartering). It might also collect commissions on financing and/or insurance sales. If we assume, as we did with Triton, that 50% of total revenue comes from sources other than submarine sales, then we get a total revenue estimate of $20-40 million.

That’s strictly within the $16-54 million range we got by just looking at employee numbers, which is good.

Best Guess: U-Boat Worx generated $16-40 million in total revenue in 2022.

Tourist Submarine Manufacturing

The personal recreational sub market is a kissing cousin to the tourist sub market. Tourist subs are subs that are larger than personal subs and are manufactured for the purpose of being operated by resorts, cruise lines, and adventure tourism companies.

There are only a handful of tourist submarines in the world today.

Mobimar is a Finland-based marine engineering company that has built around half of the roughly 30 “traditional” tourist subs in operation around the world today.

Triton has just entered the tourist sub market with its DeepView sub model. So far, Triton has only sold one of these subs. The customer was Vinpearl, a Vietnamese resort company.

“Traditional” tourist subs can carry 20-70 passengers and only go 50-150 feet deep.

However, U-Boat Worx sold at least two subs to the cruise industry, and Triton has sold at least one. Each of these was a sub-10-passenger sub that could go at least 600 feet deep.

Despite Mobimar’s historical market leadership in the tourist sub manufacturing market, I think it’s safe to say that Triton and U-Boat Worx are the future.

However, all of the above is in reference to “shallow water” tourism. There is also a niche industry of “deep water” tourism (lower than scuba divers can go).

Some deep water tour operators manufacture their own subs while others order them. Here is a list of companies that have have manufactured at least one sub within the last 20 years which has been used for deep water tourism:

  • OceanGate
  • Triton
  • Stanley Submarines
  • U-Boat Worx
  • Nuytco Research

Shallow Water Submarine Tour Operators

These are tours that go no deeper than 200 feet. There are estimated to be around 30 tourist subs operating around the world.

Sub TourAdult Ticket PriceChild (<13 Years Old) Ticket PriceMax # PassengersDive Time
Atlantis Submarines – Maui$148$664840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Waikiki$148$664840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Kona$148$664840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Aruba$114$954840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Barbados$112$594840 min
Atlantis Submarines Cozumel$115$754840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Grand Cayman$115$754840 min
Atlantis Submarines – Guam$99$494840 min
Down Under Submarines – Submarine Dive Experience$253$1432730 min
Submarine Safaris – South Tenerife$59 – $62$36 – $384445 min
Submarine Safaris – North Tenerife$71 – $75$43 – $464445 min
Submarine Safaris – Lanzarote$61 – $64$40 – $434445 min
Seogwipo Submarine$41$306620 min
Jeju Udo Island Submarine$36$316620 min
Vinpearl Submarine Nha Trang at VinWonders resort$60$402430 min
Odyssey Submarine Bali$95$653645 min

According to Mobimar as well as Stanley Plastics, roughly the shallow sub tour market carries about 1 million paying passengers each year.

Some tourist subs have minimum age limits (which are typically around 2-4 years old). Additionally, some tourist subs charge 150% of the listed adult price for solo travelers (to get the normal price at these locations you need to have at buy at least 2 adult tickets). Given that information and given the demographics of both the U.S. and Europe are skewed older, it seems plausible to estimate that at least 2 adult (read: 13 years and older) tickets will be sold for every 1 child (read: 2-12 years old) ticket that is sold.

If we use that 2:1 ratio to compute a weighted average ticket price for each of the sub tours listed above and then use the number of seats on each sub to compute a weighted average ticket price for the entire industry, we get $86 as our estimated average ticket price.

At 1 million passengers per year, that implies the shallow submarine tour market is roughly $86 million per year.

How Profitable Is The Shallow Submarine Tour Industry?

We start with the estimate that the shallow sub tour industry generates $86 million in annual revenue from 30 submarines.

The Triton DeepView 24 costs $7 million, and various online sources quote the price for different Mobimar subs at between $3 million and $6 million. To be conservative, let’s use $6 million as our average sub price and assume the annual cost of maintenance, repairs, and property insurance is 10% of the sub value.

Total Industry Maintenance Costs = 0.1 x ($6 milion x 30) = $18 million

Submarine tours are largely self-advertising since people take videos and pictures while onboard the submarines and post them on social media where they get a lot of attention. However, the industry still incurs some costs for sales (especially in the form of revenue share with cruise lines, hotels, and and other travel companies that send customers to the subs). Let’s assume the industry spends 10% of revenue ($8.6 million) on commissions.

A sub will typically have a pilot, a crew member, and 1-2 divers that accompany the sub for part of its journey to chum the water so that more fish are visible to the passengers. I’m going to estimate the average pay for each of these roles (keeping in mind that some are in third world countries):

JobEstimated Industry Average Annual Pay
Pilot$50,000
Crew Member$30,000
Scuba Diver$40,000

Assuming 1.5 divers on average, that implies an onboard labor cost of

($50k + $30k + 2 x $40k) x 30 = $4.8 million

Let’s round that up to $6 million to account for some backoffice support personnel.

We’ll assume an average moorage rate of $2,000 per month per sub ($720,000 per year for the industry).

Now let’s estimate electricity costs (almost all tourist subs use electric motors).

The DeepView 24 has a 240 kWh battery. Assuming that battery is drained once per day (Triton claims the battery can last for 14 hours of touring) and assuming an average electricity cost of 15 cents per kWh, that would imply the total annual electricity cost for a single sub is

(240 kWh/day) x (365 days/yr) x ($0.15 / kWh) = $13,140/yr

We’ll round that up to $24,000 per year to account for fuel costs while used on the surface (some tourist subs use diesel or gas motors on the surface).

Which means the industry as a whole would consume $720,000 of electricity and fuel per year.

Now let’s consider liability insurance. We don’t have access to liability insurance rates for sub businesses, so we’ll look at something similar. Water parks are historically more dangerous than tourist subs, so we should probably have similar rates. According to various sources, U.S. amusement parks spend around $100 per month per $1 million of general liability coverage. Since a single passenger sub typically carries 50 passengers or less, we can conservatively estimate a single sub would need no more than $50 million of general liability coverage. That would mean the industry as a whole would spend:

$5,000/mo/sub x 12 mo x 30 subs = $1.8 million

each year on general liability insurance.

Let’s assume another $5,000/mo/sub for office space near the marina where the sub is kept. This is not strictly necessary and may be overestimating since e.g. real estate in the Caribbean is quite cheap compared to the U.S. and Europe.

ExpenseEstimated Annual Amount
Inspections, maintenance, repairs, and property insurance$18 million
Labor$6 million
Sales, commissions, and advertising$8.6 million
Moorage$720,000
Electricity & fuel$720,000
General liability insurance$1.8 million
Office rent & utilities$1.8 million
Miscellaneous software & services (bookkeeping, email, website, registered agent, phone service, etc)$1.1 million
Total annual expenses$38.74 million

We’ll round that up to $40 million to be conservative.

That implies the tourist sub market generated

$86 million – $40 million = $46 million

of pre-tax profit (an 53% margin).

There are numerous places where our estimate may have gone astray, but it seems plausible that a well-run shallow submarine tour business could be VERY profitable.

Deep Water Tourism Companies

CompanyTourTicket PriceMax # Paying PassengersDive TimeMax Depth
OceanGateTitanic Tour$250,00038-10 Hours12,500 feet
EYOSChallenger Deep$750,000113 Hours35,900 feet
Stanley Submarines (a.k.a. Roatan Institute for Deepsea Exploration)Cayman Trench (Honduras)$1,20021 hour2,000 feet
Substation CuracaoDiscovery Dive$200440 min300 feet
Substation CuracaoWreck Dive$35041 hour450 feet
Substation CuracaoExplorers Dive$50041.5 hours600 feet
Substation CuracaoDeep Dive$65042 hours1,000 feet
Substation CuracaoResearch Dive$80042 hours1,000 feet
Seabourn Cruise LinePolar Expedition Dive$899645 min<1,000 feet
Genting Cruise Line (Acquired Crystal Cruises)U-Boat Worx C-Explorer 3 (300m)$599220 min<1,000 feet
Scenic EclipseU-Boat Worx Cruise Sub 7$795640 min<1,000 feet

Scenic has also purchased a Triton which will be delivered within the next couple years.

Additionally, there are companies such as Waterproof Expeditions which offer recreational subs (often U-Boat Worx or Triton subs) for charter rather than for single tours.

Estimating OceanGate’s Revenue

Court filings show that OceanGate took at least 28 people to the Titanic in 2022. Assuming that each of those passengers paid the currently advertised price of $250,000 for their ticket, and assuming no additional people went to the Titanic last year, then OceanGate’s Titanic tourism revenue would have been $7 million in 2022.

Best Guess: OceanGate generated $7 million of revenue in 2022.

How Big is the Scuba Diving Industry?

The following are estimates and approximations from various sources:

  • Around 1 million people get PADI certified each year, globally.
  • There are approximately 2.5 million active divers (i.e. went diving within the last 12 months) in the U.S.
  • There are approximately 6 million active scuba divers globally.
  • There are approximately 11 million snorkelers in the U.S. and 20 million snorkelers globally.
  • Recreational scuba diving and snorkeling contribute about $11 billion to U.S. GDP, according to DEMA. DEMA is a biased source so this probably includes travel where someone happens to snorkel.
  • The global recreational scuba diving equipment market size (revenue) was $1.95 billion in 2019 and is forecasted to reach that level again for 2023.

Related Markets

If we want to understand how big the recreational submersible market could get or how big the submarine tourism market could get, then it helps to look at some broadly related industry. Interpret the data in the following table as VERY rough but approximate numbers.

Global MarketEstimated Size in 2022
Recreational scuba diving equipment$2.0 Billion
Luxury yachts$7.0 Billion
Super yachts$2.5 Billion
Super yacht industry (including yacht builds, repairs, services, berths, crewing, etc)$26.0 Billion
Recreational boats$17.0 Billion
Dirt bikes$12.0 Billion
Cruises (including expedition cruises)$30.0 Billion
Supercars (Porsche, Bentley, Ferrari, and Lamborghini together hold >70% market share)$16.0 Billion

Annotated Bibliography

[1] “5 Deeps expedition completed“. September 14, 2019.

  • The 5 deeps expedition was an ocean expedition that included a full circumnavigation of the globe and a Triton 36000/2 submersible dive to the deepest point in each of the world’s 5 oceans.
  • Overall, 39 dives were conducted, a new world depth record was set (10,924 meters), and several world firsts were accomplished.
  • “[The] EYOS Expeditions team have together completed over 1200 expeditions…” — Rob McCallum (EYOS Expeditions founder)
  • “We deliver around 60 expeditions a year for our clients, and all of them require a customized approach…” — Rob McCallum
  • “The scale of the [5 Deeps Expedition] surprises most people; we have coordinated over 1,100 flights, dealt with 54 Government entities and had to provide logistical support to some of the most remote parts of the world.” — Rob McCallum
  • “The expedition’s primary platform, the 68-meter vessel DSSV Pressure Drop, underwent a $15 million refit to prepare her…”
  • The expedition spanned 10 months and was broken into 12 distinct expeditions.
  • One of the unmanned robotic landers (named Skaff) became trapped at 10,920 meters and was unable to return to the surface. However, the team was able to deploy additional landers, navigate them back to Skaff, and release Skaff back to the surface. “This was the deepest salvage/rescue ever undertaken… For the first time in history we have a tool that can be used to recover objects from any depth.” — Rob McCallum

[2] Acrylic Viewports.com

  • This website is owned by Stanley Plastics Limited, the company which manufactures the acrylic spheres and hemispheres used by both Triton and U-Boat Worx.
  • Stanley Plastics also manufactures the acrylic viewports for (almost?) all tourist and commercial subs.
  • Stanley claims that the best tourist submarine operations have well over 100,000 passengers per year, and that altogether, the world’s submarines carry half a million tourists every year.

[2] Allied Market Research: Adventure tourism market

  • This report claims the global adventure tourism market in 2022 was $367 billion and will grow at a CAGR of 28.7% to reach $4.6 trillion by 2032. That seems like an absurdly bold prediction to me, and I don’t buy it. It’s also nearly twice the CAGR predicted by Grand View Research.
  • Australia, New Zealand, and India are a few of the most popular adventure travel destinations.
  • Adventure tourism has surpassed traditional mass tourism in popularity (a claim that Grand View Research agrees with in their market research report).
  • Soft adventure activities are low-risk and include walking, climbing, cycling, camping, and scuba diving.

[2] Allied Market Research: Dirt bike market

  • According to this report, the global dirt bike market was $9.1 billion in 2021.

[3] Allied Market Research: Luxury yacht market

  • This report claims the luxury yacht market size was $5.8 billion in 2020 and expected to grow with a CAGR of 8.0% from 2022 to 2031.

[4] Atlantis Adventures

  • This company offers tourist submarine rides in Maui, Kona, and Waikiki. Up to 48 passengers can be carried to depths below 100 feet in Maui or Kona. Waikiki’s sub has 64 seats.
  • Tickets are $148 for adults and $66 for kids 12 and under.

[5] Atlantis Submarines

  • This is the parent company of Atlantis Adventures.
  • The company has 10 subs that operate across 3 locations in Hawaii, 4 locations in the Caribbean, and 1 location in Guam.

[5] “Australia’s first tourist submarine launches on the Sunshine Coast“. January 20, 2022.

  • “Down Under Submarines” has opened for business in Mooloolaba on Queenland’s Sunshine Coast, offering sub tours up to 30 meters deep.
  • The SUBCAT-30 can operate on the surface as a catamaran or can dive as a submarine.
  • Down Under Submarine Director Andrey Alexeenko said the first dive tour will take visitors up to 18 meters deep about 1.5 nautical miles out from Point Cartwright.
  • The article references “Yellow Submarine Cruise” and “Visit Sunshine Coast” but does not clarify whether or not these entities are affiliated businesses with Down Under Submarines.
  • The Submarine Dive Experience (30 minutes underwater, 20 minutes surface travel each way) will cost $253 for adults. The Yellow Submarine Cruise will cost $55 for adults.

[3] Blue Marble Private – Trips

  • This company offers luxury trips (including submarine trips) to ultra high net worth individuals

[3] Charter-A-Sub.com

  • Super Yacht Sub 3 (up to 300 meters deep, 3 occupants)
  • C-Explorer 3
  • This appears to be a subsidiary of U-Boat Worx.

[4] Chesapeake Submarine Service Inc.

  • This Maryland-based company offers several sub-related services including underwater search and recovery, piloting instruction, and sub leasing/rentals.
  • The company offers piloting instruction out of Lake Denton in central Florida using a K-350 sub.

[5] Community Submersibles Project

[4] “Cruise industry news 2022 market report: fastest growing market segments“. May 17, 2022.

  • Luxury and expedition cruises are the fastest growing market segments of the cruise market.
  • The luxury segment has grown 119% since 2012 to an annual passenger capacity of 721,078. The market segment is expected to reach nearly 1.2 million passengers by 2027.
  • The expedition market is smaller than the luxury market but has been growing even more dramatically over the past 10 years, from approximately 67,000 passengers in 2012 to 367,557 passengers in 2022 (449% increase).

[2] “Dawn Wright successfully dives Challenger Deep“. July 13, 2022.

  • Dawn Wright (Chief Scientist at Esri) and Victor Vescovo completed a successful dive to the bottom of the Challenger Deep.
  • Victor Vescovo is the founder of the ocean research company Caladan Oceanic.
  • The expedition was led and coordinated by Rob McCallum, founder of EYOS Expeditions.
  • A series of maps and data from the dive were made available on Esri’s ArcGIS Living Atlas of the World.
  • During the expedition, Vescovo and Wright successfully tested a first of its kind, full-ocean-depth “side scan” sonar built by France’s Deep Ocean Search.

[1] Deep Ocean Expeditions Brochure – Mir Submersibles (Archived from Deep Ocean Expeditions Website in 2007)

[1] DEMA (Dive Equipment Marketing Association) 2023 Diving Statistics

  • There are approximately 2.5 million active divers (i.e. went diving within the last 12 months) in the U.S.
  • There are approximately 6 million active scuba divers globally.
  • There are approximately 11 million snorkelers in the U.S. and 20 million snorkelers globally.
  • Recreational scuba diving and snorkeling contribute about $11 billion to U.S. GDP.

[1] “Dives to the Titanic — possibly the last — are back on the calendar for 2019“. June 8, 2018.

  • Blue Marble Private’s planned May 2018 Titanic submersible expedition experience did not happen on schedule due to electrical damage from thunderstorms and lightning during testing trips.

[1] Down Under Submarines

  • The Submarine Dive Experience is about 1.5 horus long: 20-25 minutes surface travel each way, plus 30-40 minutes underwater. Adult tickets are $253 while child tickets are $143. Concessions are separate. Photos are separate. Memorabilia are separate.
  • There is no toilet onboard.
  • Food and water are not provided unless in an emergency (or possibly via purchase).
  • The sub can transport up to 27 passengers plus 3 crew members.
  • The sub was built in Spain in 2002 by Nodosa shipyard and designed by Mr. Oriol. Originally, the sub was named “Subcat Catalonia”.
  • The current company that owns the sub imported it into Australia in 2018. It took 2 years to refit and then another to comply with 3 maritime authorities: Vanautu Flag, American Bureau of Shipping, and Australian Maritime Authority.
  • The company also offers the “Yellow Submarine Cruise” which does is on the subcat but involves no actual diving. The cruise is about 1 hour and costs $55 for adults and $33 for children.

[1] “End of an era for tourist trips to ghostly wreck of Titanic“. April 10, 2012.

[1] “Expedition cruising is one of this year’s biggest travel trends“. January 14, 2023.

  • “Expedition cruises are often the last bastion of novelty for wealthier travelers. Most have been to major cities around the world and have visited the obvious natural wonders one can see. But few have the fortune of having been to, say, Antarctica or the Galapagos. Those expeditions are the culmination of a life of travel for many already well-traveled individuals.” — Jeff Galak (Associate professor of marketing at CMU’s Tepper School of Business)
  • “Adventure travel is proving to be the break-out travel trend of the decade. We’re seeing tremendous excitement from guests across geographies and generations to get that bucket-list trip on the books today.” — Noah Brodsky (Chief Commercial Officer for Lindblad Expeditions)
  • Expedition cruises are small (16-250 passengers), go to destinations normal cruises can’t (e.g. Antarctica), and are focused on education and exploration. “There is usually a focus on nature, wildlife, and off-the-beaten-track experiences in remote areas, and a degree of physical activity is usually to be expected.” — Edward Granville (COO of tour operator Red Savannah)
  • Dinner shows are replaced by lectures on marine life and Antarctic history.

[3] “Experiential travel is a growing trend“. 2022.

  • Back in 2014, a destination management company and a travel industry media company released a report that stated “Intense global demand for travel experiences that resonate on a deeper emotional level is driving travel brands to develop a product that is more adventurous, more personalized, and more attuned to local culture, inspiring consumers toward a path of self-discovery.”
  • Experiential/adventure travel is one of the fastest-growing tourism market segments.
  • “67% of opulent or well-to-do travelers want to spend their money on activities rather than a nicer hotel. Travelers are going beyond the concept of relaxation, leisure and traditional sightseeing.”
  • According to Tripadvisor’s Experiential Travel Trends research, the “hottest souvenir” to bring back from a trip is a new skill. Experiences like salsa dancing classes and surf lessons are growing in popularity.
  • Eventbrite’s nationwide research of millenials showed that 69% want to live “one-of-a-kind” experiences that put them in touch with the culture of the places they visit.
  • A survey conducted by EasyJet (a low-cost Swiss airline) found that 55% of travelers scheduled trips inspired by images they saw on their instagram feeds.
  • A survey taken by Schofields, a UK-based holiday rental home insurance provider, showed 40% of millennials consider the “instagrammability” to be their most important priority when choosing a destination. Instagram and social media turn experiences into currency, so this is partly partially why young adults are increasingly desirious of experiential travel. However, wealthier adults are often more private, and wealthier adults are driving categories like expedition cruises, so clearly Instagram is not the only factor at play.
  • “Numerous experts are calling experiential travel the future of tourism.”

[2] “EYOS leads first dive to RMS Titanic in 14 years“. August 20, 2019.

  • “EYOS Expeditions staff have again led a successful expedition to the RMS Titanic, deploying the Triton 36000/2 submersible ‘Limiting Factor’ to conduct several dives on the wreck over a 10-day period.”
  • The article quotes EYOS Expeditions founder Rob McCallum saying “this is the first dive that anyone has done since our last dive in 2005. No one has seen the Titanic since…” However, I’m not sure that is true…. [TODO: WHY?]
  • The 2005 expedition referenced by Rob was conducted by EYOS using two Mir submersibles and involved 20 dives in total.
  • The 2019 EYOS expedition arrived on site on July 29, and then conducted 5 dives over the next week.
  • “Until now, only 157 clients have had the opportunity to dive on the Titanic but many films and documentaries have been produced for a variety of international broadcasters.”
  • “…diving on the Titanic is a complex and difficult undertaking, with currents up to 4 knots. Even though our onboard team has over 200 Titanic dives to their credit, we cannot take anything for granted.” — Rob McCallum

[3] Grand View Research: Adventure tourism market size & trends

  • The global adventure tourism market size was $282 billion in 2021 and is projected to grow at a compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) of 15.2% from 2022 to 2030.
  • The soft adventure tourism segment represented 65% of the total adventure tourism market in 2021. Soft adventure activities include trekking, hiking, cycling, camping, and scuba diving (among others). Rising demand for soft adventure activities among older age groups is expected to drive market growth.
  • The article claims that the “hard adventure” segment represents over 20% of revenue marketshare and “other” (neither hard nor soft) activities represent 10-15%. Hard adventure is growing quickly in Europe.
  • Couples represented 40% of the adventure tourism market by revenue.
  • The U.S. is lagging behind Europe and Asia in terms of adventure tourism market size and growth. That may mean there is an opportunity for entrepreneurs in the U.S.
  • From 2000 to 2019, the number of international tourists rose from 680 million to more than 1.5 billion, according to the UN World Tourism Organization and IMF staff calculations.

[4] Grand View Research: Off-road motorcycle market size & trends

  • This report claims the global off-road motorcycle market was $14.34 billion in 2021.

[5] Grand View Research: Yacht market size & trends

  • This report claims the global yacht market size was $8.91 billion in 2022 and expected to grow at a CAGR of 5.8% from 2023 to 2030.

[4] Gulf Business: “Triton Submarines braces for the next wave of experiential tourism”. July 24, 2020.

  • The article claims Victor Vescovo’s Tritan 36,000/2 submersible (named the “Limiting Factor”) cost $37 million.
  • Triton Submarines has around 50 employees split between their headquarters in Sebastian, Florida and their “Submersible Supercenter” in Barcelona.
  • The article claims Triton hand-builds fewer than 10 submersibles a year.
  • The “popular” Triton 3300/3 costs approximately $4 million.
  • Triton’s least expensive sub dives to just 305 meters and costs $2.7 million.
  • The Triton DeepView 24 costs $6.76 million.
  • The Triton 3300/6 costs $5.35 million.
  • Triton exhibits at the annual Dubai International Boat Show and has sold at least one sub to a Dubai client.

[3] Heli Subsea OY

  • Heli Subsea OY (previously named Lamor Subsea Ltd) is a manufacturer of emergency helicopter simulators for emergency training (including underwater escape simulators). However, the company also manufactured (or at least participated in the manufacture of) tourist submarines such as the Meiren Yu Submarine.

[4] How much does it cost to climb Mount Everest in 2023?

  • Most people will pay between $40,000 and $50,000 to climb Everest in 2023, but some will pay up to $160,000 for their experience.

[4] Hydrospace Group Incorporated

  • This company provides hydrostatic pressure testing for submersible windows and domes.
  • The company also builds submersible dome and window assemblies and hyperbaric chambers.

[5] Innerspace Science

  • This organization is owned by several submarine nerds, including several people who have built one or more subs.
  • The organization helps connect private subs to educational and scientific users.

[3] “Inside James Cameron’s deeply dangerous quest to reach the bottom of the ocean“. December 23, 2022.

  • According to this EYOS article, Victor Vescovo funded the entire 5 Deeps Expedition which involved $50 million for the sub and the ship plus $1 million per month for each of the 10 months at sea. That doesn’t exactly line up with other data though. A Gulf Business article disclosed the cost of the Trieste 36000/2 as roughly $37-38 million, and a different EYOS blog article disclosed a refit cost for the 5 Deeps Expedition ship of $15 million. That would add up to at least $52 million and doesn’t include the cost of the ship itself (only the ship refit and the submersible).
  • Rolex sponsored James Cameron’s 2012 expedition to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
  • In 2022, Vescovo sold his submersible, the Limiting Factor, and its mother ship to Gabe Newell, the billionaire founder of the Steam gaming platform. “My finances were getting tighter,” said Vescovo.

[4] International Submarine Engineering Ltd – Company History

  • This web page discloses that ISE (International Submarine Engineering) was the company that built PAGOO, Paul Allen’s private 8-passenger, 1000-foot diving depth recreational submarine.
  • This web page also discloses that ISE built ODYSSEY, a general-purpose tourist submarine for use by a tropical sub tour company.

[5] IRS Partial Interest Rule — 26 CFR 1.170A-7

  • This section of IRS regulations applies to how a submarine owner can and cannot get tax deductions by donating usage of the submarine to a qualifying nonprofit.

[5] JFD Global DSAR (Deep Search And Rescue) Submarine Rescue Vehicle

[4] Magellan company info

  • Magellan is a UK company founded in 2015.
  • Magellan develops, builds, and operates ROVs rated for 6,000 meters. It also builds and operates subsea testing and sampling rigs and winches with up to 10,000 meters of rope.
  • The company primarily serves the oil and gas industry by providing deep underwater inspections, data collection, and emergency response. However, the company also inspects pipelines and undersea cables.

[5] Mobimar

  • Mobimar Ltd. is a marine engineering company in Finland that (among other things) designs and builds tourist submarines.
  • Mobimar claims to have built about half of the 30 tourist submarines that operate year-round.
  • The most profitable submarine operation sites, using Mobimar Mark V submarines, have well over 240,000 passengers per year, according to Mobimar. Altogether, the world’s submarines carry a million tourists every year.
  • Mobimar Mark III-V tourist submarines have (or continue to) operate(d) in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, Red Sea, South Pacific, North Pacific, Yellow Sea, and East China Sea.

[2] National Geographic: Rolex deep-sea history

  • On January 23, 1960, the Swiss-designed, Italian-built Trieste submersible became the first crewed vessel to reach the bottom of the Challenger Deep (the deepest point of the ocean, within the Mariana Trench). An experimental Rolex Deep Sea Special wristwatch was attached to the exterior of the Trieste during the entire trip, reaching a depth of 35,814 feet, and it supposedly successfully withstood the pressure without breaking (although I have not seen evidence that it was functioning while underwater).
  • On October 14, 1947, Chuck Yeager became the first person to break the sound barrier in an airplane, the Bell X-1 Glamorous Glennis. Supposedly, he was wearing a Rolex watch while he was in the plane.
  • Rolex continues to actively sponsor renowned marine researchers and ocean exploration.
  • Rolex Oyster watches (of which the Rolex Deep Sea Special was an example) have also [TODO: FINISH]

[3] “Nemo personal submarine gets big price cut as production ramps up“. September 9, 2022.

  • U-Boat Worx mostly builds custom boats, but it is doubling down on making its “Nemo” models into cheaper production subs that can be purchased by more people.

[4] Nuytco Research

  • This company produces the Orcasub (capable of diving to 2,000 feet) and the Dual Deepworker (available in 2,000 foot and 3,300 foot depth limit versions).

[5] “OceanGate Expeditions faced hurdles in executing its excursions to the Titanic. Here’s what else we know about the company“. June 22, 2023.

  • “OceanGate faced a series of mechanical problems and inclement weather conditions that forced the cancellation or delays of trips in recent years, according to court records. The scuttled excursions led to a pair of lawsuits in which some high-paying customers sought to recoup the cost of trips they said they didn’t take. The complaints alleged the company overstated its ability to reach the Titanic wreckage.”
  • Henry Cookson Adventures Ltd., a London-based travel company entered into an agreement with OceanGate in 2016 to take up to nine passengers to the Titanic in 2018. Henry Cookson tried to recover roughly $850,000 it had paid to OceanGate.
  • “At least 28 people visited the Titanic with OceanGate [in 2022], according to a November court filing from an adviser to the company.”

[5] “Owner doubles diving pleasure with 2 Triton subs“. February 14, 2017.

  • At the time of the article, Triton had apparently sold seven Triton 3300/3 subs. That’s just one of their models, and the article was written over 6 years ago. Given that the Triton 3300/3 had only been released in 2012, that means more than one Triton 3300/3 sub had been sold every year.
  • The Triton 3300/3 has an acrylic sphere pressure hull that is 84 inches in diameter and 6.5 inches thick.

[1] PADI 2021 Worldwide Statistics

  • PADI issued more than 28 million diver certifications from 1967-2021.
  • There were more than 128,000 PADI professional members around the world as of 2021.
  • There were 6,600 PADI Dive Centers and Resorts worldwide in 2021.

[1] PBS: Deep-Sea Machines

  • In 1971, the Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute in Florida built an acrylic and aluminum submersible for scientific research. In 1973, while being used by another institution, the submersible became tangled in the cables of the sunken destroyer Fred T. Berry. It was trapped for over 24 hours before the rescue vessel A.B. Wood retrieved it with a grappling hook. However, by then, two of the four crew members had died of suffocation.

[1] PBS: Submersibles through time

  • 1953: Trieste (would eventually take the first men to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in 1960)
  • 1964: Alvin (would help discover the Titanic in 1965)
  • 1971: Johnson Sea-Link
  • 1976: Clelia
  • 1987: Mir 1 and 2
  • 1996: Deep Flight 1
  • 1997: DeepWorker 2000

[1] Personal Submersibles Organization

  • This website is the true nerd forum for DIY submersible builders and personal sub owners.

[1] Polaris Market Research: Recreational boat market size & trends

  • According to Polaris, the global recreational boat market was $16.3 billion in 2021 and expected to grow at a CAGR of 6.5% until 2030.
  • This number includes yachts, sailboats, personal watercraft, and human-powered inflatable boats.

[1] Scuba diving equipment market size 2021-2025

  • This article claims the global recreational scuba diving equipment market size was $1.95 billion in 2019, dipped during the pandemic, and is set to reach $1.95 billion again in 2023.

[1] Seabourn Cruise – Submarine Expedition

  • These sub excursions use 6-passenger + 1-crew U-Boat Worx subs.

[1] SEAmagine Hydrospace Corporation

  • SEAmagine makes 2-7 person submersibles with depth ranges from 100 meters to 2,300 meters.
  • This California based company was founded in 1995.

[1] Seogwipo Submarine

  • The company began offering submarine tours in 1988. The location of the tours is either Jejudo Island or Seogwipo Munseom Island.
  • The original submarine “Maria” could accommodate up to 48 people. Since 2003, the company has used “Jiah”, a 67-person submarine built by Mobimar in Finland.

[1] Sport Sub

  • The 3-person “commercial grade” SportSub III has a base price of $120,000. A surface to pilot communication system can be added for an additional $14,300, and other miscellaneous accessories can be added for lesser prices.
  • The company offers pilot training for $7,000 + expenses.
  • Subs are built to order and delivered in about 12 weeks, subject to backlog.
  • The SportSub has a 40 meter dive depth.
  • The website seems outdated and buggy. I’m not sure the company is still active.

[1] Stanley Submarines

  • This is Karl Stanley’s company. He built a submarine which he uses to operate deep sea tours down to 2,000 feet (or sometimes 3,000 feet).
  • Karl, his sub, and his company are based at Half Moon Bay in West End, Roatan, in the Bay Islands of Honduras.
  • Karl’s sub is named Idabel.
  • Karl charges $1,200 per hour for dives. If you want him to drop bait so you can see more, that’ll be $500.
  • The company partners with Roatan Luxury Yachts to offer multi-day charters to neighboring islands.

[1] Submarine Safaris

  • This company operates two 46(ish) passenger submarines on two different islands. Each sub cost over 3 million Euros to buy.
  • The company has carried out over 52,000 dives, with nearly 2 million guests. That implies an average of 38 passengers or less per trip (about 80% occupancy).
  • Tenerife sub ticket prices cost 54-69 Euros per adult and 33-42 Euros per child.
  • Lanzarote sub ticket prices cost 56-59 Euros per adult and 37-39 Euros per child.
  • Group rates and submarine charters are also available.

[1] Substation Curacao

  • This is a submersible tour company based on the Caribbean island of Curacao.
  • The business owns and operates two subs: A C-Explorer 5 (built by U-Boat Worx) and “The CuraSub” (built by Nuytco Research).
  • The company offers five different tour experiences (pictures included in each): (1) 40 minute Discovery Dive to 300 feet for $200 per person, (2) 1-hour Wreck Dive to 450 feet for $350 per person, (3) 90 minute Explorers Dive to 600 feet for $500 per person, (4) 2-hour Deep Dive to 1,000 feet for $650 per person, and (5) 2-hour Research Dive to 1,000 feet for $800 per person.
  • The company has an affiliate, Subcenter Curacao, that offers a 1-day introduction to submarine piloting course for 4,000 euros (about $4,400).

[1] “The quest to make submarines more affordable“. New York Times. August 22, 2022.

  • “In 2007 we went to the Monaco Yacht Show to introduce our subs to boaters and people thought it was a joke… They thought we were this crazy group of students with a prototype, and nobody thought it was real. Then a trickle of superyacht owners began to buy them, and now everyone with a yacht over 150 feet is at least considering one.” — Erik Hasselman (commercial director for U-Boat Worx)
  • According to the article (dated the 22nd of August 2022), U-Boat Worx has sold 40 subs to date and has 15 more in production.
  • U-Boat’s subs tend to be priced from $2.5 million to $3.5 million.
  • U-Boat Worx offers a 2-week training course to Nemo sub owners that includes theory and 20 training dives. The training costs $1 million.
  • According to Mr. Hasselman, the catalyst for the personal sub’s raised profile was the cruise industry after U-Boat Worx delivered its first sub to a cruise line in 2015. “…that changed the general perception because it’s big business. If a cruise company is doing something, then it must be proven and foolproof.”
  • Seabourn Cruise Line offers Arctic and Antarctic cruises that offer 45-minute polar dives starting at $899.
  • Carl Allen, an entrepreneur who sold his family’s business in 2016, owns Walker’s Cay (an island in the bahamas) and a Triton sub. Carl uses the bus to go treasure hunting below 150 feet and claims to have found gold bars and a large emerald.

[1] Titanic (1997 film) box office revenue metrics

  • Production budget: $200 Million
  • Worldwide box office revenue: $2.22 Billion

[1] Triton: Exploring opportunities for a compact charter platform

  • Triton estimates that you could charter one of their subs for $20,000 per day.

[1] “Triton Submarines announces new partnership with James Cameron and Ray Dalio“. December 14, 2022.

  • Ray Dalio and his son Mark co-founded OceanX, a philanthropic initiative that supports ocean science. The organization’s marine science and media vessel, the OceanXplorer, is already equipped with a pair of Triton submersibles that have played a role in producing BBC’s Blue Planet II and the National Geographic/Disney series OceanXplorers.

[1] “Triton Submarines now offering luxury subs for charter“. October 4, 2012.

[1] Triton Ultra-Deep Submersible Models

[1] “Troubled waters: angry customers left behind as yellow submarine sails into sunset“. April 3, 2023.

  • This article says that Down Under Submarines had its maiden voyage with paying customers on December 25, 2021, but that pandemic pressures and regulations still affected bookings in early 2022. Unreasonably bad weather also apparently pressured the company, resulting in cancelled tours. The company failed to communicate adequately with some of its customers, and this article claims that while the DownUnderSubmarines website is still up, it is not accepting online bookings.
  • A De Brett Seafood Wharf spokesperson said that DownUnder Submarines had moved their SUBCAT-30 from the Parkyn Parade wharf base. “They moved their operation late [in 2022]… They’re not here… I believe out of country — somewhere overseas — but I’m not entirely sure.”

[1] U-Boat Worx

[1] Verified Market Research: Global adventure tourism market

  • This report claims the global adventure tourism market size was $316 billion in 2022.
  • The report claims the market size will grow at a CAGR of 15.74% from 2023 to 2030, reaching $1.16 trillion.
  • This report claims North America is the largest global adventure tourism market (which contradicts Grandview’s market research report which claims both Europe and Asia-Pacific are larger).

[1] Vinpearl Submarine Nha Trang

  • This Vietnam based sub tour operation uses a Triton DeepView 24 sub.

[1] Waterproof Expeditions: Charter a Submarine

[1] WebArchive (March 19, 2018) of “The Bluefish: Visit the Titanic” (posted March 2, 2017)

  • The article advertises two identical upcoming expeditions to the Titanic, each limited to a maximum of 20 divers. The expeditions will be 13 days long aboard the Akademik Keldysh, a Russian owned and operated vessel.
  • The dives would use the Mir 1 and 2 submersibles and are expected to last for 11-12 hours.
  • The cost (including 1 dive) is $59,680. The cost for non-divers who want to take the voyage is $10,000.
  • The article says that the prices above were for the 2005 dive and may be higher for the 2018/2019 dives.
  • NOTE: As late as November 12, 2020, the webpage still advertised “accepting reservations” for the 2018 and 2019 expeditions. Thus, it is unclear if either expedition ever happened.

[1] Wikipedia: Deep Star 4000 submersible

[1] Wikipedia: Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle (DSRV)

[1] Wikipedia: Mir submersibles

[1] Wikipedia: Nautile submersible

[2] Wikipedia: Robert Ballard (discoverer of Titanic wreck)

[3] Wikipedia: Titanic (1997 film)